Hm, I've always done it before the Justice quest anyway. But regardless how about we put it somewhere in that nebulous area between two and three, so Hawke and Anders are involved, but Anders hasn't gone goth. Hawke probably still needs to be Champion, though.

I can be a Varric. =) Not a great one, but then, who can live up to the master? Heck, I can even bring out my Varric for the thread so he has his own login.